The following interview is a companion piece to the Tera Patrick interview that can be seen via this Adult Detective Forum and issue five of Layers Magazine. Although this interview with Evan Seinfeld, a.k.a. Spyder Jones, is primarily in regards to his personal history and career as Biohazard frontman, it is revealed toward the end of this interview his relationship with his now Vivid Video wife, Tera Patrick. If you’ve read the Tera Patrick interview and wondered who the fuck that Spyder Jones character was, then this is the perfect piece for you. If you’re reading this because you’re already familiar with the musical and theatrical offerings of Biohazard and Even Seinfeld, and can’t believe he’s now a fuckin’ porn star, then this piece is also perfect for you. Either way, you can’t go wrong. Check this shit out.
(Biohazard was formed in Brooklyn in 1988 and since that time have released nine full-length records both independently and on major labels. They are credited as pioneering what has become known as the rap metal genre. Their influence can be heard in multitudes of hardcore bands not only in and around Brooklyn, but throughout the world. Evan Seinfeld can also be seen on HBO’s successful prison drama OZ as convicted murderer and death row inmate Jaz Hoyt. He is currently the CEO of his wife’s company, Club Tera, and is the only man Tera will perform boy/ girl sex scenes with in her films, thus launching his career as porn star and adult industry power player. His porn name is Spyder Jones)
Layers: What did the members of Biohazard do for a living before the incarnation of the band?
Evan Seinfeld: Me and Danny used to jam together in like Junior High before we started the band. We was just little fuckin’ guys. He was like 12 and I was like 14. We used to jam out cover songs. A lot of Black Sabbath and Zeppelin, but everything from the Who to Slayer. I used to work at Anthony’s Uncles Lumber Yard driving trucks and delivering cement bags to the ghetto in Brooklyn. When we started the band, I was dealin’ coke and weed n’ shit. Doin’ dumb shit. I kept my regular job so I would have something to do and somewhere to go during the day but I was a terrible drug dealer. I did all my own drugs. Anybody else woulda' been rollin’. Havin' cars n’ shit. I had a broke ass 72’ Cadillac. Abig pimp ride. Billy was also driving a truck at the time and Danny was workin’ in a clothing warehouse throwin' boxes down a shoot.
Billy: (To Evan) Did you tell him about the sex shop?
Evan: Oh yea. That’s right. When I first met Billy he worked at the Pink Pussy Cat Boutique which was like the local hardcore sex shop. He was like the skinhead security guard beatin' people up every day.
Billy: I sold dildos to literally every fuckin’ actor and actress you could imagine.
Evan: And back in those days that was like the only a place to go if you needed a vibrator for yer girl or some shit. It was the only spot to go. And I was like the only guy in the band with a car and Billy would call me up and be like “Yo, pick me up.’ And it would be like 3 in the morning. I’d be in bed all drunk with like two fuckin’ chicks. I’d be like, “Dude, waddaya talkin’ about? I can’t pick you up. I’m here.” And he’d be like “Yo come on man! I’ll give ya all this cool shit. I got all this leather bondage gear. You can tie yer bitches up.”
Billy: I never said, “Tie yer bitches up!”
Evan: But yea. We were all just workin’ odd jobs. Most of the work I did before the band was demolition and construction shit just breakin’ shit up. Blue collar shit. We all come from hard workin’ families. Everybody always had jobs and we all went to work everyday. Don’t get me wrong, I never wanted to work or do anything else but play music. So dreams come true I guess.
Layers: Who claims responsibility for the lyrics and who writes most of the music?
Evan: Everyone in the band writes. Everybody in the band writes music and lyrics on a song by song basis. Sometimes we might all write lyrics to the same song. There might be a song where we’ll all each write a verse. Danny, Billy, and me write everything. We try to let everybody have equal input and feeling. That’s what a real band is. If one guy writes everything then that’s not a band. You have a songwriter with a backup band cuz then it’s only one person’s vision. To me, the meaning of a band is the band together. Like a hand. Separate fingers ain’t shit until they come together as a fist.
Layers: Who or what influenced the levels of speed and aggression of the new record? Cuz the new record is definitely the most aggressive material to date.
Evan: You know what? Let me tell you something about Biohazard. We’re the most accidental motherfuckers in the world. We never plan anything. Everything we do just seems to happen organically. We never even expected to get a record contract. We just love playing hardcore and heavy metal and thrash and hip-hop. And I think all the hype of all the nu-metal bands and all the whack, really cheesy radio shit that’s out there right now, and all these bands doin' rap-metal that we did 15 years ago before anybody ever gave a fuck about it or gave it a name just made us sick. All that hype just kinda turned us off to it. And the course of the themes to the new record is just a reflection of the times we live in. Just all the anger and pent up rage from what went down that year. We didn’t plan on writing those songs the way we did. We just all came in with songs that were so fuckin' hardcore and it just all came together that way. We all agreed to keep the album short and to the point. I mean our last album came out on 9.11. Watching those buildings fall from our own rooftops and windows and losing people we new and having friends die and going to a whole lot of funerals and having our town pissed on. I have friends who are still getting’ fucked up by it. All my boys workin’ construction that I grew up with doin' all the cleanup all lost most of their lung capacity. I don’t know if you know about this but there are thousands of guys in NYC right now who can’t breath because they’ve been breathing dust for a bout a year. My friend Richie lost 70% of his lung capacity. He’s 37 years old.
Layers: Can you get that back?
Evan: No. You don’t get that back bro. The government writes you a check for 50 grand and says thanks and sorry. But he doesn’t care. He loves his country. That’s what pisses me off about all these liberal PC fucks. And all the actors who speak out against the war. Fuck you. Who the fuck are they. You got Michael Moore tellin’ Bush “shame on you.’ The only reason he has the right to say that shit is because America is what it is. America wouldn’t exist if we never fought wars and took the threat of terrorism away. Saddam Hussein is gonna do some fucked up shit in the war. I personally think that he will gas his own people just to kill our people.
Layers: So you keep up on that shit?
Evan: Yea, I keep up on it. As much as I can. It makes me sick. Sean Penn takes out a fuckin’ ad in the Washington Post talkin’ about his views. Who cares? Who gives a fuck? He’s just a fuckin' actor.
Layers: But that’s the sad thing. A lot of people DO read that shit just because he IS an actor.
Evan: I know because I’m an actor too. I’m not on his level of acting but I did that show OZ for five years on HBO which is a pretty well known and respected show. Sean Penn actually wanted to direct an episode and Tom didn’t want him too. I think he gave it to Matt Dillon instead. Tom only likes real New York guys. And let me just add that there are no “REAL” New Yorkers against this war.
Layers: Yea well how many protesters participated in New York?
Evan: They’re not real New Yorkers bro! They’re people who moved there from like Shaboigan. Those protesters are the people who didn’t loose any family or anybody close to them.
Layers: Give me an example of some of the everyday violence that you’ve experienced or witnessed that inspires so much of your music.
Evan: We grew up with violence all around us. I wouldn’t say it inspired me. Survival was our instinct to stay alive. We grew up with people dying all around us. The story of "Goodfellas' came from our neighborhood for Christ sake. That was a true story about our friends’ uncles and our friends’ fathers. They would just disappear one day. By the time I was 18 I had never been to a wedding but I’d been to at least 50 funerals. Death is just a reality. Everybody is gonna die. Nobody lives forever. And seein' a lot of our friends fall away from violence or end up in jail or strung out inspired us to find a way to channel our energy in a positive way and the only way we knew how to do that was though our music.
Layers: What’s the story of Rat Piss Studios? How did that come about?
Evan: We were playin' down at Fast Lane Studios, which was Mikey “Big Balls” place and we wanted to get our own place to practice and record and “Rat Piss” was the cheapest place we could find. It was located right under the Brooklyn Bridge about two minutes from my house and like one subway stop from Manhattan. It’s underneath the ground in a basement right on the East River so it’s always moist and damp and the floor is build on palettes because you can’t build right on the cement because it floods. So it’s on palettes and all the rats live underneath them. So one day we put rat poison everywhere and the rats ate all the poison and went back underneath the palettes and died. And then all the other rats started to eat the dead rats because rats will eat other rats. Rats will eat their own. That’s why when somebody “ rats” on somebody they’re called a rat. Cuz they eat their own. The place just stunk and we called it “Rat Piss” as a joke. It just stuck.
Layers: Is it difficult to balance Biohazard with all the different side projects that all the band members are involved with?
Evan: I think it’s really easy. We’ve been doin’ Biohazard for so long that we know how to do Biohazard. When it’s time to make a record we get together and work on songs for about a month or two and then we go in for two weeks and record. And then we tour and when we’re off tour we work on our other shit. Danny and Scott have that project “Among Thieves” and they have a live record comin’ out soon. Billy’s been producing a whole lot of bands and so has Danny. I have a new project too. It’s real urban hip-hop, fueled by metal and hardcore rap group called “Triple Sicks”. The web site is www.triplesicks.com>
Layers: How did the part in Oz come about?
Evan: Those guys actually approached me. We had a mutual friend introduce us. Dean Wints is pretty much the guy who got me the part. He plays Ryan O’Reily on the show
They sent me a script on Friday. I thought it was an audition and they told me to be there Monday morning.
(At this point, a guy named Mel came up in the conversation. Mel played the character who killed Jaz Hoyt, Evan’s character, in the final episode of Oz. If you know who Mel is, then we’ll leave it at that. If you don’t know who he is, then don’t ask.)
Layers: Isn’t Dean Wents boys with Mel?
Evan: Yea, I was out with Mel last night. The thing with Mel was, the show was going to end. It was the last season. And Tom wanted to make sure that the show would never come back. So he killed off a lot of the main characters. I told him that if I had to be killed off, I didn’t want a main character to do it. So he brought in Mel to do the job.
Layers: I saw you in a spread in the porno mag Club. How did that come about?
Evan: They’re just girls man. A friend of mine shot those photos. The same friend who introduced me to my fiancé.
Layers: Can I ask who your fiancé is?
Evan: Her name is Tera Patrick.
Layers: The porn star Tera Patrick?
Evan: Yea. She’s at the hotel room right now and I’m sittin’ here jerkin’ off with you two guys.
Layers: Did you have a problem doin' full frontal nudity in Oz?
Evan: No. And as a matter of fact, that’s how I met Tera. She saw my cock on Oz.
Layers: Do you have a problem with her doin’ porn?
Evan: She doesn’t do any guy/ girl porn anymore. She stopped doin’ that before I even met her. She still does hardcore photo shoots but I don’t give a shit about that. I actually wanna give a big shout out to her. She’s goin’ through a big lawsuit right now because the company she was with ripped her off.
Layers: Vivid?
Evan: No. Vivid rips off a whole bunch of other girls. Tera’s company was called Digital Playground. The web site they were running for her, terapatrick.com, was all fake. They used all fake cumshots n shit. She’s got her own website comin’ out soon. www.officialterapatrick.com.
Layers: So you don’t mind guys jerkin’ loads all over pictures of your girl?
Evan: Let me tell you somethin'. People are gonna beat of to your girl whether she’s in porn or not. My girls just got the guts to put it out there and she only comes home to me. She’ll only do a photo shoot if I’m there. People always wonder about dating girls like that. But at least the guys she’s fucked in the past have always had to get AIDS tests before hand. You meet a girl at a bar, and it’s like Russian Roulette.
Layers: Will any member of Biohazard ever live in a mansion?
Even: Not from Biohazard. I don’t even like big houses. I live in an industrialized neighborhood in Brooklyn next to a fuckin’ rock quarry in a loft. I could tell you where I live and you wouldn’t even find it. I have always wanted a big garage though because I collect bikes n’ shit. I gotta Jessie James West Coast Chopper bike and I’m building a Cadillac street rod right now. Me and Billy both collect muscle cars. I just sold my 66’ Apollo Super Sport and I’m gonna build another pro streetcar. Probably a 72’ Grand Pree. I just got a brand new Hummer. I live ghetto style.
Layers: How much time do you get to spend at home?
Evan: I stay there as much as I can cuz I have an 8 year-old son. My kid doesn’t even know I’m gone half the time. I’ll fly home just to spend a day with him if I’m on tour. The most important thing in my life is my family and Biohazard is my family. And all our fans are a part of our extended family. And my son and Billy’s and Danny’s kids are our blood. We gotta go out and earn a living for them because we don’t play fuckin’ pop songs that get radio play.
Layers: What’s next for Biohazard and Evan Seinfeld
Evan: Biohazard is gonna keep makin' records and keep touring. I just wanna thank all our fans for 15 years of glory. Biohazard will never sell our fans out. We’ll always be real and we’ll always be hardcore no matter what direction our music takes. To us, hardcore is being willing to die for what you believe in and living by the principles in which you believe and never compromising your integrity for anything whether it’s money or fame or anything.
interviews by Brian Bush
originally published for layers magazine
No comments yet: